How to Support a Killer Summer for Your Teens

Tiffany Sauder (00:00):
I think the clarity of all of this creates the space for summer to be really fun and enjoyable in a time of being together as a family and having friends over. So when this is all set up and I know exactly as a mom what to do and what we're doing and who we're having over we're and who wants to do what in the time and resources that we have available during the summertime, we get to spend so much energy on having a great time because we're all really clear about what we want going in the summer.

Tiffany Sauder (00:32):
I'm Tiffany Sauder, entrepreneur, wife, mom to four girls and a woman figuring it out just like you. If you're tired of living a life of have to and finally ready to build a life of want to, then you're in the right place. Come on, let's go build your Life of And.

Tiffany Sauder (00:55):
Do. I have so many accessories on today. I didn't think that when necklace, bracelet and necklace, it feels two necklaces. It feels like too much. I'm like, stand back. Chanel take something on. Does it doing a lot of things. Maybe. I know. Maybe I have a bracelet actually, because you already have the compass leaves and it's too much. It's too much Brent, too much, too many things. I really was like Coco Chanel was it? She said, take one thing on hopeful we leave the house. And I've heard that. I don't know if it's fair. I think it's true, but I have too many things on. I think I was trying to ate for the fact that I basically had vacation pants on.

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Didn't even know. So it's a decoy. I was just feeling it's a rainy morning and Jared spent on, this is day seven and so I feel like I was just kind wanting to stay in my robe. So I started with pants and they're very soft, little big and I was like, these are really pants. You wearing the pool? I think. Well, we wore 'em to the podcast today. So anyways, so I oversized, yeah, I checked my hair since say, walked through the right with two kids and back out. Still boring, but you have a jacket on so you must be a work day. A little day out. Must be a workday. So okay, well we're all doing our best. Yeah, that's what we're doing working. So producer Sam's back on the mic. Yes. Summer are standing easier. Yes. So this is the third or fourth episode and this one if you have teenagers at home or I would say just kids that are in that early independence stage. My I what is aids? Age 12 question. Be a big word. What year is this you guys? So weird. 2025 was the year. Yeah, and she was born in 11, so she'll be 14 this year.

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And so I would say in that stage and Ivy's almost 10 and so some of these things, it's not quite quite 10, but if you have teenagers, let's just say this simply, if you have teenagers or older preteens that just tend to feel like they're a little older than their age, then this is definitely an episode for you to listen to as you're preparing for summer and really trying to get ahead of the war of how do you keep 'em off their phones. We've got some things to talk about, things we've done in our hosts, some things I'm trying this summer, some things I've observed in my own teens as we're getting ready for summer's coming, here we go.

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And if you have younger kids, the last episode was all about activities for younger kids throughout the summer. So you can go back and check out that one. Aren, our teams, anybody's mind. No, I love clean. Actually we're having a big party in our house on Sunday with 20 teenagers, which will be so fun. And then two weeks later we'll have everybody for a last day of school party, which will be so fun. So love to entertain. We also created a summer sanity toolbox, like an easy PDF to walk you through some of the things we'll talk about today. But if we're trying to figure out how do we get a headstart, we did a talk, I did a talk yesterday and you took pictures of me so that we can put it on the ground. I always stand, we did a tour yesterday to a corporate partner of ours really all about how to prepare world for summer.

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And I'm always reminded about how important it is if we do not want to stay in a reactive state, which really becomes our only strategy when we don't have a plan, if we don't be the one, be the linchpin for absolutely every piece of decision making in our family. We're like, well, my worry, literally nothing happens around here unless I do it. If we don't want that to happen, if we don't want to get stuck in same day solving where 20% of your attention is on your text messages all day long, your teenagers are blowing your up or your kids are because they don't know who's going to take 'em or who's going to pick 'em up or what to eat or what to do and they're bored and that is such a capacity suck. It's one of my least favorite things off planet earth.

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But if you want to avoid all of those things on preamble, then just click on the link in the show notes to this summer sending toolbox. We'd love to share it with you. We did it yesterday. It was really well received. It was exciting. It's like easy print off things to hang on your fridge and keep you priority calendar top of mind. Yeah. Perfect. Great. Okay, let's get into it. Let's do it. Okay. I have no way of knowing what time it is, which makes me nervous because I have a lot. You do? Okay. Every once in a while I'll just blur down, but you know what I mean. Can you kind of help me know if it's been how long? Because I have a tendency to not be able to perceive my own pace. So okay, we're going to talk about teenagers, middle school and high schoolers specifically.

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That's really what I have in my own household and I think there's some things to remember first before we just get into toolbox mode. One is to remember that these people who live with us are not fully formed to events and they sometimes try to convince us that they are fully foreign humans because they're very persistent, they're smart kids, they're super capable, but their brains are still developing and their identities are still being formed. And so our jobs as parents still exist in their room to put some boundaries in place and to help facilitate their learning. And I think summer is such an important time for us to do just that, facilitate their learning in ways and development and maturity in ways that school does not. We have eight weeks, which is a very short time, but we have more of their time and attention inside of our household.

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So I think that's important to remember. I have to remind myself, my 16-year-old in particular, actually both of my girls, they're so capable and I have to remind myself they're not fully formed humans and I have to make sure that I'm still fully present. So I wrote down kind of four reminders for all of us of who are these beings? Let's look at them as in their developmental stage, take the name of our kid away and just like what are teenagers? One is they're developing their independence and that is a good thing actually. We want them to be able to have agency over their choices. We want them to have discernment. We want them to be able to make decisions when they're tired, when they're well rested, when they're over. We want that independence actually to take place is a reminding of ourselves of that going into a season where there's going to be a lot of decision making.

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What time am I going to be home or when am I leaving and can I take the car and all the things. Not every time that they're practicing their independence. Are we going to love that moment as a parent? But I think reminding myself, I do want them to be independent and I do want them to be able to make decisions and choices and to the extent that I can create frameworks to allow that decision making, we are probably going to have a more peaceful relationship than if I'm dictating everything, which can be my tendency sometimes because I'm a very high, high quick start, high control personality. So that's one. Our teenagers are developing their independent. That is a good thing. And when we can give them options and choice, let's do it. I remember with your little kids, it's like, hey, would you like to sit on the blue circle or the red circle gave them choice, but I'm telling you, you need to sit down.

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They're like, oh, I'm going to sit in a blue circle. And we forget that. Same thing with our teenagers, like, hey, you can be home at 11 or 1130, which one would you like to be home by? It's like, it's up. You can pick that or something like that. But when we can give up the options and choices, let's do it. And I think reminding ourselves that they're not going to make perfect choices and we didn't either. I think telling them that too. Yeah. What do you mean be honest about you didn't always make the best choices or you made mistakes. Because sometimes I feel like they're like, my mom must have just been perfect because she's so hard on me. But it's like, no, actually, were you a good kid then? Yes, I was a good kid. I still kid. Yeah. But I was a good kid.

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I was a good kid, but I also wasn't Yeah, I feel like you were a good kid though most of the time. Yeah, yeah. There were some choices with made that made. I think some of that is healthy. Getting yourself in a situation where I like, oh crap. Right? Yeah. I'm trying to figure this is a too, why am I here? I remember some of those. You're like, oh, Jesus got weird. Yeah, why would I do? We don't have phones. I know. Okay, that's number one. Independence. Second one is social development in this season. And I remember I had Michelle Gams that parenting coach on a couple of times I like a year and a half ago, and she talked about there's a season in your life where your friends become more important into your life and world than your family does. Their microphone into who you're becoming and their influence in your life is just getting greater and greater.

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And that is for sure these teenage years where their peer relationships are important and they may prioritize those over family. And I think we're not careful. You can take that personally. Why do you want to be with me? I've raised you for 16 years and I paid for everything you have because you don't want to be with me right now. So I think again, reminding her that's normal, super normal. It was just talking about a couple of big parties we're having at our house parties, whatever. But I think I'm really being intentional right now in the season of teenagers and Brian, Vicki talked about this a couple episodes ago too. How do I make a way for my kids to be with their friends and also be with them in that experience? Because my kids are like, I'm not in the middle of it, but sometimes I want to be like, Hey guys, I be the kickball pitcher, but how do we figure out how those friendships can be part of our family too instead of the kids feeling like they have to choose between being with their friends or being with their families.

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I find as my kids get older more often it's like, Hey, I'd love to bring my friend Sophia. I love, she releases to this, but she comes with us often. It's so fun to have her. She fits right in. We've got just certain of the girls as friends that just come with them sometimes because it's fun for my girls to have their friends and I want to integrate those relationships into our family. So things to be aware of. Third one is just executive function. Teams are still very much developing their ability to plan, to time, manage to make decisions, literally moving time and resources around in a way that has order and priority and thoughtfulness is not just random and without the structure of school, I think it feels like a wide open road to them. And so I think we also have to work with them and sort of develop those executive functions with them.

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I think summer is an awesome time to do that, but also create some infrastructure for them to work with them and not be mad at them when it's like, what do you mean you don't know what to do? They lay on their beds and play on their phones all day long not to piss you off actually, I don't think. I think sometimes they literally don't have the executive function to think about what to do instead. And the internet has programmed itself very well to take our attention. And so again, reminding myself, Hey, this executive function thing is still developing when you make a totally nerd ball decision or lose track of time or decide to refold all your underwear four minutes before we're leaving or something. You so stupid. Then I got to remind myself, this is still forming and summer is an amazing time to practice that together. I think their phones feel like a sense of connection to it. I'm going back with the friend thing. It feels like they are connected to their friend

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Even if they're not. Yes, this is a little bit of an aside, but my mom, we were with her over Mother's Day weekend and she was asking me again what I felt like some of those critical parenting decisions we've made. We do not let our kids have social media until 16. And I think that is one of the most critical parenting decisions that we've made. So some of you may be listening and say you don't have that choice anymore because they're younger than that and they already have it. But that I think their phones are a place of connection, but I have found giving it to them kind of so late social media, so much of their patterns of engagement have formed with their friends in a way that don't require social media that I find the vacuum suck of their attention. Instagram, which is all Aubrey has, which have TikTok or some, what's the other one?

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Snapchat. But I think the vacuum of their attention is less into that stuff because their relationships are formed on other platforms. They had to be yes, either in real life or the text or whatever. So the fourth one, just again some reminders, we talked about their independence of developing. That's a good thing. Their social development relationships with their peers, their executive function is still developing. And then the fourth one is their emotional regulation. You have to remind yourself, I don't have to meet you at your response interval. Yeah, very toddler too. It's just the same. It's just a different level. Totally. Yeah. It's exactly the same but different. Yeah. It's like, hey, you can trigger each other in a way that starts to spin and spiral. And again, was going back just in my memory, bank of Michelle GA's parenting coach, she was like, sometimes the only reasonable response that you can do in that setting is to just walk away and that response is not harmful to a kid.

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It neutralizes it and it gives you a chance to go think. So if you cannot conjure up your most caring, thoughtful voice in a moment where you're just mad and you don't want to do something that's crazy, it's just a walk away and remind yourself that sometimes that is just the best response to give everybody a little bit of time, everything, a little bit of breathing room, and it gets it to a place where you're not harming the relationship saying things that you want to take back. And I feel grateful this is not a huge place in our family. Actually. I think the place where I can help create some emotional damage for my kids or if I'm imagining what my teenagers will say in therapy someday is that I'm very positive and we are a head first kind of heart, second family, just Jeremiah's wirings.

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What's the test? Did we get it done? Did we achieve, what's your grade? Did we get there on time to you win the award? Very task performance oriented and just sitting in your emotions and letting things be bad and not having to the right side. We're not good at that and I feel like I have to really practice that in front of my kids. I have to really practice sharing my failures at the same sort of speed that I share what is good that happened. And so I think that's, while it's an emotional regulation in a sense of we're not fighting and killing against each other's throats, but I do think I can sense it in an ainsley sometimes where I just don't let her just be mad or I don't just let her be tired and just let it be. You don't have to make it better. Okay, well you seem kind of mopey. It's like, well just let me be mopey. I'm 13 and I'm like, okay, well it's kind of buzzkill just I can't just let it be. I think I just sometimes need to just let it be. I don't need to take it on. I don't need to fix it. I don't need to make her feel like that's wrong for her feeling kind of ob and I feel that tug of war in me and I just can't watch them all.

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I dunno. What do you think your kids will say about your favorite there? Who knows? I mean, you still have a long way to go, so I don't know what they said. I think that's going to be one. It was one of the things I had to come there before, so I think I could see that would be very similar for me too, but Bryce is the good balance there. If he's go at D emotion, then I am more like, well, let's just not have them. Yeah, keep moving. That sounds better.

Tiffany Sauder (17:31):
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Tiffany Sauder (17:55):
Okay, so I'm going to move now into some constructive, how do you support a constructive use of summer for our teenagers?

Tiffany Sauder (18:02):
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Tiffany Sauder (18:02):
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And also we have these things where we look at them like you've been in a phone a long time, how long is too long? These things that are very implicitly defined inside of our homes and in a relationships we need to sit down and make them really explicit. So that's what this is about, co-creating the summer plan. So there's five or six different pieces to it. One, just looking at what are their personal goals or personal priorities. I use the word priorities a lot. So where do they want to volunteer? What do they want to read? Who do they want to see? Where do they want to go? What camps do they want to attend? How is summer a part of intellectual curiosity for them? A chance to do some different patterns of behavior and exploration. Go to part, I don't know what they want to do, but asking them, what do you want to do? I think this exercise of teaching teenagers, you can define a goal, spend eight weeks doing some things and at the end actually have done the thing

Tiffany Sauder (20:28):
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Tiffany Sauder (20:29):
Part of developing that executive function of them learning how to achieve something that they don't have and plan well and to have clearly defined priorities. So that's one. What are their priorities and having, I really recommend giving a two to three day heads up on this because teenagers, if you just lay and blast them and struggle or do it on a black with them, for my girls that really works. It's like a place of opening up. It takes maybe an hour and 10 minutes to do our loop. And so the first 20 minutes might just be talking about friends and then hey, what are some things that you'd love to do this summer? When I had this conversation with Ainsley, one of hers was she wanted to learn how to grill, which was super fun and I never would've thought of that for her, but she was like, I just want to be able with my friends over and grill ops and burgers and broths.

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It's like, well that's adorable, you're in eighth grade. But now I know to support that for her and that will be super fun to help her learn how to do that. So that's one, what is that personable goals also then looking at the calendar with them literally printing out the two to three months that are summer and laying on there with them. What weeks are you at camp? What weeks is maybe another sibling bond? If you're traveling as a parent for work or for pleasure at them, kind of seeing the map of the summer and then say of the social things you want to do or the places you want to go, how do we get that schedule? Now if you want to have a birthday party, if you want to have a summer party, if you want to get four friends and go to the pool, let's go ahead and figure out the three to four days that could happen so that we're not waking up one morning and saying, holy crap, we have an open day.

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I wonder what we're going to do. Those days, at least in our house tend to be very constructive. Or what's a day where you just want to do nothing? Let's go ahead and decide that as well. So looking at the calendar and figuring out social time, camp time, if they have a job, how many days they're working and getting clarity on that so that they can see again, executive function development. They can really see where am I committed, where do I have free time and how do I make thoughtful choice in the context of my priorities goals and put this in 11 calendar and prioritize someone I gained. I could see her having 300 things she wants. It's you actually bank 300 things this summer. Which ones are hot for you? Totally, totally. And we might have a not now list or like, hey, this is kind of a bonus list.

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The other thing to talk about is screen time limits. So if this is a point of contention in your family is to work with your teenager and say, what is a reasonable expectation for us to have of how much time you're going to be on your phone and even you, how much time do you want to be on your phone? I don't know, maybe I just don't know these kids. Or maybe my kids are like this and I just dunno. I don't actually think kids want to be on their phone eight hours a day. I think you have no idea much on phone. Yes, I think it becomes this vacuum suck completely. And I also believe, and again I could be proven wrong on this, this is just my own lived experience. It's not studied experience, but when kids are given an exciting alternative for their time other than their phone, that they would rather do that.

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And so how do you work with them to say, these are things you love, these are the things you want to learn. These are the things we want to do. How do we be effective about that? So again, create an agreement with them. How are you going to measure this? Are we going to set some time limits on some of the apps that you have so that you have awareness for it? What happens if you don't keep those agreements that we have in place? Should I take your phone? Should I be mad? Should I just let you do it? Again? This is about saying I want to foster independence in you. I want you to make these choices and I want to be here to help keep you accountable to the person you want to become. So what does that mean and where do I have permission?

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So now you are the parent and it's not like I ask my kids for permission to parent them. That is my job to parent them. And if they say no, I don't have permission, I get to override that. But there's something so interesting about a teenager when you ask for their participation in the boundary setting and you ask for their participation in the consequence creation that they start to understand that feels fair. And if I didn't do what I said I was going to do, it makes sense that you enforce the consequence. And going back to this idea of fostering independence and fostering executive function, this is actually a real life stuff. When you're in a job, when you're in a college setting, when you're out on your own, when you're parenting, when you're doing, this is how life works. You have explicit agreements of what's going to happen when you don't hold up your end of the bargain.

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Either life naturally brings consequences or there are creative consequences. The one we've agreed on, you're not going to have your phone for a week or whatever it is. So it has been a huge unlock because teenagers when they feel like it's fair, they might stomp off, but they respect it so much versus it feeling random. It feels like you've been on the phone, that phone lock is summer, I'm taking it for a week. Or they're like, oh my word, this came out of the blue. What are you talking about? Why all of a sudden in this minute you're freaking out? I didn't know that that minute was the minute that you were going to get so mad. It becomes this weird thing. And sometimes it can be based, our reactions can be based on our own emotions or exhaustion instead of like, no, this is what we agree to.

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I'm going to give me the space. So very big deal. Another place to plan is just what is the rest and room for creativity that they want? Again, if you guys decide two mornings a week, your teenager's going to get to sleep in until whenever they want to. Two mornings a week they get to sleep in whatever they want to. And if it's like, oh my, it is 1215, I think we're still about awake. It's like, well, that's part of what you've agreed to. That teenager wants rest. That's part of how they want to experience their summer. You don't need them for anything else. So again, it might not be what you pick for your time or what you can pick for your teenager that can work. And then the last is thinking through what do you want your teenager to learn or put energy towards in the summer?

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So the teenager obviously has priorities for themselves, but what are the things that you want to insert into their world? So for our 16-year-old, she started driving. We have allowance that works kind of like as if she was on a salary. She gets paid every two weeks and I want her to learn how to reconcile her expenses against her budget. So when I grew up, we did all cash budget when I was 16, I had little envelopes and it was like this was for gifts and this is for, we live in a digital currency world now me teaching her how to spend money with

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Literal dollar hard currency is not the world she's living in and I'm super aware of that. And so I need to teach her how to create a budget in Excel, how to be able to look at her bank reconciliation at her bank statement at the end of the month and how to categorize those expenses against her budget and figure out are you spending what you thought? Are you over or under? Is it a one-time thing? And just her learning how to plan, how to spend and how to interrogate the difference between the two is a skill that's really important for me that she learned. And so that is something where she wasn't like, I'm so excited to learn how to reconcile my budget, my budget this summer. That's the thing that I have on my calendar that we'll work on together. I really want her to learn that.

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So that is an example of where do you want to teach and pour dear teenagers? Do you want 'em to learn how to cook something? Do you want them to learn how to do laundry? Do you want them to learn how iron? Do you want them to learn how to clean up the mow the car pressure wash you have, mow the grass, whatever. So another thing to think about, so that is all in the name of co-creating a summer plan with your teenager. That is their priorities, your priorities for them and understanding of how they're going to use their time agreement around how we're going to deal with the technology over the summer. And it's really about moving implicit expectations into very explicit agreements and things are implied. We're both working on sets of information that have not been communicated that may or may not be close to one another and neither one of us has said, I agree to that versus explicitly each of us publishing what our expectations are as coming to a place of, yes, I understand yours, you understand mine and we can agree on this.

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I know my role in this, your role in this, and we know what's going to happen when it doesn't play out. So if you're listening to this and saying like, wow, that sounds, that's going to take a really long time. It really doesn't take a long time. It probably takes an hour and a half and if you think about all of the micro fights that it removes from your summer, it's like you got a lot of time and energy back. So I want the relationships with my kids to be filled with clarity. And so this exercise, it just does that. It's very helpful. Just three little tactical hacks for teenagers that have helped me. One is my teenagers eat all the time and suddenly somewhere they're eating five meals a day at home versus their customary bagel and leaving the house and then lunch to school.

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So I have had my big kids add things to my weekly grocery order. I always have a big piece of paper on the fridge or a shared note on our phone and it's just like, what's the thing that they want? What snacks do they want? Do they want to try something new? Did they see an article on Pinterest and they want to make something? I don't care. That's super easy. But that way they know what's in the house to eat and they have some say in what's coming and it's not this like, Hey, what is there to eat? The other thing I love to do is put, I put this in a little downloadable piece is have a post-it note or a whiteboard or something on your fridge that says what there is to eat in this fridge. Because I understand if we open somebody else's fridge and you look in it, if I came to your house and opened the fridge, I'll be like, I don't know.

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All I see is nester because I don't know what's in all the containers. I'll put it together and how to put it together so the kids don't cook the food generally. So me saying there's taco meat, you can make bowls or tacos, there's shredded chicken, you can put it over pasta with sauce or over rice. There's ham in there if you want to make a grilled cheese or grilled ham and cheese. It's like then they're like, oh, that sounds good. The stuff is in here to make that. Showing them a menu, just like when you go to a restaurant, it's like, oh, this sounds good. I guess I'll do that. This is already made. Or there's a frozen of pizzas and a freezer, whatever it is. So that's very helpful food. We are a eat to live family. We just are. And so solving for food where it's not a bunch of text messages or there's nothing to eat here, having them contribute weekly to what we're ordering and then also having a menu visible on the fridge has been very helpful.

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I also have had an, if you're bored list on the fridge again, this idea of their executive function not being fully developed and it's like, I don't know what to do. I'm bored. And it could be things like take a walk, clean out your closet, help someone who needs it, play with your sisters. Bake some cookies, find a project that looks fun on Pinterest. Make some cards for, there's a nursing home close to us. Call a friend, wash your car, sweep out the garage. Sometimes they want something physical to do, sometimes they want something creative to do, but they just literally can't think of anything. And so while they might not end up doing any of the things on the onboard list, it gives them some inspiration and starts the process of that executive function being able to be, oh, this kind of sounds fun.

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I think I'll do this. Last piece of advice is if you are familiar with the life event. I am a big fan of the weekly family meeting this summer. It is just as important as the school year, make it visual, make sure that the family understands, hey, this is what we did last week. What were the fun things that we did, what we want to try to recreate in the coming week. And I'm looking at the next week and making sure all the things are set up, logistics are set up, who needs a packed lunch, who's going to work, who's having a front over is everything structurally set up so that we can have an exciting week ahead? That family meeting is just as critical in the summertime. So I am feeling 6% like, man, this is just a bunch of organizing and strategizing and really formal conversations with your family.

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And that is true. And that's because I think the clarity of all of this creates the space for summer to be really fun and enjoyable in a time of being together as a family and having friends over. And so when this is all set up and I know exactly as among what to do and what we're doing and who we're having, where were and who wants to do what in the time and resources that we have available during the summertime, we get to spend so much energy on having a great time because we're all really clear about what we want going into summer. So if you are wanting to take a look at the other episodes inside of our Working Parent Summer Survival series, we have link those in show notes for you and we would love for you to take download this guide and help you and your family set up your best summer.

Tiffany Sauder (33:53):
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